Can I Buy A Pig Tail For A 50 A Service To 30 A
On our last trip, someone with our group started to have a few issues with their ability-box at the site. The billow started to trip, would re-gear up, but would trip again a few minutes later on. Long story brusk, with a few trouble-shooting ideas, it was discovered it was in fact the breaker in the power box.
When the service guy showed up, he asked if he had a 50/30 pigtail, and said that information technology is meliorate to utilise that than to plug straight into the 30amp anyway.
It was somewhat explained to me (I'm getting it 2nd hand), and it kind of made sense, merely and then again, it didn't.
Can someone here break it down for me as to why it is better to run a 30amp TT through the pigtail and into the 50amp service? Or does this brand no sense at all?
On the other hand the 50 amp side is rarely over loaded. When y'all plug in your 30 amp pigtail, yous are getting a cleaner, better connection.
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rv2go wrote:
30 amp receptacles at the pedestal tend to be used to the max amperage or more causing the contacts to burn causing poor connections.
On the other paw the 50 amp side is rarely over loaded. When you plug in your 30 amp pigtail, you lot are getting a cleaner, better connection.
Would using the sus scrofa tail also assist prevent surges, since I'grand breaking downwards from 50 and not already trying to pull the max out of the outlet?
The original thirty amp billow in the power box has weakened with age and is probably non providing a full 30 amps. The l amp breaker is giving more than than 30 amps, so the problem goes away.
If y'all exercise not have a 50/30 dog bone, get one and employ information technology whenever 50 amps is bachelor.
So, I wanted to inquire here and get the plain jane version, which I am getting. I appreciate it! It makes sense now, and I volition continue to employ it whenever I go somewhere with 50amp avail!
rv2go wrote:
xxx amp receptacles at the pedestal tend to exist used to the max amperage or more than causing the contacts to burn causing poor connections. On the other hand the 50 amp side is rarely over loaded. When yous plug in your 30 amp pigtail, you are getting a cleaner, meliorate connection.
I apply a 50amp/30amp connector all of the fourth dimension for these reasons. Seems like the 50amp power loops are more than consistent voltage-wise. I do this even at our seasonal site, and take never had any under/over voltage bug even on the hottest of days running A/C, electric h2o heater, and microwave all at the aforementioned time.
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JT19 wrote:
rv2go wrote:
30 amp receptacles at the pedestal tend to be used to the max amperage or more than causing the contacts to burn causing poor connections.
On the other hand the 50 amp side is rarely over loaded. When you plug in your 30 amp pigtail, you lot are getting a cleaner, better connexion.
Would using the pig tail also aid prevent surges, since I'yard breaking down from fifty and not already trying to pull the max out of the outlet?
The only thing to assist against ability surges, low voltage, etc. is to purchase yourself a multi-part surge protector (Surge Guard is the make I employ) and the cost should exist ~ $250 (30A) and ~ $350 (50A)...
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2Macs wrote:
50 amp is actually 220v/50a. Using a fifty/30 dog bone you are converting to 110v/50a past using merely i leg of the 220v. The effect is you now have fifty amps to work with. By using the 50 amps, your converter will handle the power distribution with no problem and chances of tripping the billow is greatly reduced. In hot weather when you are using your A/C, refrigerator, microwave and entertainment all together, the extra amps available will give peace of listen and comfort.
The original thirty amp breaker in the power box has weakened with age and is probably not providing a total xxx amps. The 50 amp billow is giving more than than 30 amps, and so the trouble goes abroad.
If you lot do non accept a 50/30 canis familiaris os, get one and employ information technology whenever 50 amps is available.
If I sympathize correctly I can utilise the 50/xxx connectedness and will get ii benefits (1) more cosistent power (two) I may be able to operate several appliances that under a normal 30 amp plug in would exist having breakers trip. I have had that occasion when the married woman uses her hair dryer and the coffe pot or toaster kick in.
I seem to be hearing that if I am plugged in to the 50 amp side that this might not happen. I accept one of those TRC portable surge guards (30 amp) and use it EVERY time I connect. Could I nonetheless apply that as I normally do under your scenario of the fifty/xxx dogbone converter?
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In very hot weather last year I tripped the breaker on the A/C a few times.
Definitely going to attempt this for the upcoming week as nosotros head out to Westward Branch State Park in Ohio!
Thanks 2Macs for a succinct and clear explanation that even a novice could empathize!
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Thousand Go BLUE wrote:
The but matter to help against power surges, low voltage, etc. is to buy yourself a multi-function surge protector (Surge Baby-sit is the brand I employ) and the price should be ~ $250 (30A) and ~ $350 (50A)...
So a quick google search took me to camping world, and I run across they take few models to cull from, $89 upto $700. Judge I'll start reading. Cheers.
Does anyone know anything about this one?
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/production/portable-surge-guards-with-lcd-brandish/11198
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Along this same line I employ the split up 20AMP service all the time too. All of my exterior extension cords get plugged into it. If it is cool and we are using the electric heater it gets plugged into it likewise... Keeps downward the circuit breaker trips sometimes... Lately I have heard some folks are bringing along a piddling 5000 BTU air conditioner and plugging it into the 20AMP service using an extension cord to get additional cooling in the bed room.
We camp a lot at our dwelling house camp footing at Westmoreland State park and a lot of the sites in B-Section are tent sites. Many of them come right upwards next door the electric sites. I have had many of the tent campers come up and inquire if they could plug in an extension cord to my 20AMP service. I always say "certain" since its on its ain circuit breaker. Went walking around on 1 trip and saw in that location must accept been a dozen or so taps coming off my 20AMP service haha... I checked information technology for existence hot at the pedestal and it wasnt so didnt say annihilation haha...
Every one seems to have a PLAN B I guess...
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JT19 wrote:
K GO Bluish wrote:
The only affair to help against power surges, low voltage, etc. is to purchase yourself a multi-office surge protector (Surge Baby-sit is the brand I utilize) and the cost should be ~ $250 (30A) and ~ $350 (50A)...
So a quick google search took me to camping world, and I encounter they have few models to choose from, $89 upto $700. Guess I'll start reading. Thank you.
Does anyone know anything nigh this one?
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That would be the one...some other place to get it would be PPL MOTORHOMES then go into their parts department and search for the Surge Guard
If I understand correctly I can employ the 50/xxx connection and will get 2 benefits (1) more cosistent power (2) I may exist able to operate several appliances that under a normal xxx amp plug in would be having breakers trip. I have had that occasion when the wife uses her hair dryer and the coffe pot or toaster kick in.
I seem to be hearing that if I am plugged in to the fifty amp side that this might not happen. I have one of those TRC portable surge guards (thirty amp) and use it EVERY time I connect. Could I still use that as I normally do under your scenario of the 50/30 dogbone converter?
Y'all volition still only get 30amps of power. If the wife uses her hair dryer and the coffe pot or toaster kick in and you lot pull more than 30 amps you will throw the billow. You can and should all the same employ your surge protector.
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Because the park breakers are typically run near max load and frequently tripped, they become weak over time. That is why y'all volition trip the park 30 amp billow before you will trip your own trailer 30 amp breaker.
M Go BLUE wrote:
JT19 wrote:
M Get Blue wrote:
The only thing to help against power surges, low voltage, etc. is to buy yourself a multi-function surge protector (Surge Guard is the brand I use) and the cost should exist ~ $250 (30A) and ~ $350 (50A)...
So a quick google search took me to camping world, and I see they have few models to cull from, $89 upto $700. Guess I'll start reading. Thank you.
Does anyone know anything about this 1?
CLICKY
That would be the one...another place to become information technology would be PPL MOTORHOMES and so go into their parts department and search for the Surge Guard
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